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February 2004

Fixing Windows 98 to Windows XP Logon Problems

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I recently encountered a situation in which a customer's Windows 98 PC couldn't log on to the shares on the customer's Windows XP Professional Edition PC. The customer had a peer-to-peer (P2P) environment, and the XP PC could navigate shares on the Win98 PC. When the Win98 PC tried to connect to the XP PC's shares, an Enter Network Password dialog box opened and showed the message You must supply a password to make this connection: Resource: \\computername\IPC$, with a field to enter a password. As a test, I tried logging on to the Win98 PC as different users. The same dialog box opened each time I tried to connect to the XP PC's shares.

The Microsoft article "Unable to Connect to Network Share When Netlogon Service Is Not Started" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=262916) discusses this problem in the context of a Windows 9x computer connecting to a Windows 2000 Professional computer's shares. Although stopping and restarting the service might work in Win2K, doing so didn't correct the problem of Win9x PCs connecting to XP shares.

To determine whether the Netlogon service was working on the XP computer, I ran the Netstat –a command and paid particular attention to the following line in the output: TCP >> XPPC:netbios-ssn >> XPPC:0 >> LISTENING. Note that netbios-ssn is commonly known as 139/TCP—NetBIOS Session Services. The LISTENING output showed that the Netlogon service was working, so I figured an authentication problem existed. (For more information about common ports, see the Microsoft articles "A List of the Windows Server Domain Controller Default Ports" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=289241 and "Windows NT, Terminal Server, and Microsoft Exchange Services Use TCP/IP Ports" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=150543 or browse to C:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\services.)

I tried rebooting the XP and Win98 machines several times, checking the share and NTFS permissions on the XP machine's share directories. I even created new shares and tried to access them. One solution would have been to delete and recreate the Win98 user on the XP machine—but I would have spent the rest of the day updating the shares and permissions. While I was contemplating this task, I suddenly remembered an old Windows for Workgroups (WFW) 3.11 trick: Simply reenter the user's password on the computer that holds the shares.

I reentered the Win98 user's nonexpiring password in the Win98 user's account on the XP computer. Voilà! The Win98 user could again access the shares on the XP computer. This fix was necessary for all the Win98 users who had a user account on the XP computer.

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Reader Comments
This is a good tip but here are some more suggestions. In XP gop to help and support and in the search type "kbnetwork setup peer to peer Windows XP" and you will get some hits from the Microsoft knowledge base if connected to the internet. NOTE useing help and support in XP can solve many problems!
An article that came up was http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318030
This has some very good reference to other articles that may help.
Also a article I have used as a starting point for peer to peer networking in 2000 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;258717
XP can be a challenge with peer to peer networking. It seems like it is a one way street. Another issue is simple file sharing on XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307874 this article will help those who are used to windows 2000 networking and the Q258717 article mentioned earlier.
I worked with Microsoft as a support tech in the Windows 2000 Q. Help and Support and the general help file is your friend when it comes to looking for answers. It just keeps getting better with each OS release.

Jeff Wallen January 31, 2004


You are my hero of the day (You must excuse my writen english becasue i am latin traines only reading english). I have spent days trying to find a solution for this network problem, but only this article give me the solution. Inmediately I did what the author says and again Voilà! . I like the style of this article, becasue it exposes every hypoteses the author did (they are the same hypoteses i did and try before to find this heaven-gifted article) not only giving the final solution; it gives a fast explanation of all the mind process to get the solution exposing the hypoteses and the reasons that drive the mid to that hypoteses. Also it gives references to spread your knowledge . A good article for dummies and experienced users.

Mauricio Ortega February 14, 2004


You, sir, are a genius!!! I have been fighting this problem for 2 weekends and in desparation turned to Google. I found innumberable articles on how to set up networking between Windows ME and XP but I had alreday done that - your article saved the day! Do you have any idea why your suggestion works?

Thank you so much!

Bill Wood February 29, 2004


I don't have a problem with establishing connectivity between win 9x and win xp machines. Rather, the problem that I am encountering is access speed to shares. Specifically, once I connect to a share from a win 9x machine to a win xp machine, or for that matter from a win xp machine to a win xp machine, the access speed to the share is very slow. I've tried a lot of different things, including mapping by ip number(\\10.1.1.35\), and nothing seems to help. Do you have any suggestions?

Sam Williams March 10, 2004


I have this same exact problem, but resetting the password did not help...? Any other suggestions?

Eric March 31, 2004


This is also known in the field as Hopping(dutch term). Create simular username & password on different machines and you can access resources also without having trusts between domains this will work.

hans straat April 06, 2004


Thanks Bret, you saved the day. I won't forget this one.

Alan April 11, 2004


Thanks guys, it helped me, too. It is you, who should work at ms support...

Bernard April 28, 2004


I have a similar problem, but not exactly the same. I set up a third server (all 3 are running Windows 2000 Server) on the network. Only W98 clients cannot access it. They can, however, access the two existing W2000 servers. It does not seem to matter if the new server is a Domain controlloer or simply a member server. Any thoughts from anyone? Thanks.

Sandra April 30, 2004


I found this article useful. However, the information contained in it is not total based on the problem am having.

I have a heterogenous O/s running on my LAN, Windows98, XP, and 2000pro. The server runs on windows 2000 server. The only system on the network that has resources which other systems shares its resources is the XP machine which is a fellow client connected to the server running Windows 2000 server. I have configured the windows 2000prof to access all the resources on this system (XP). The only challenge am having is the Windows 98 connecting. I went ahead, created an account for the Windows 98 user on XP. Got to the \\computername\IPC$ prompt on Windows 98 machine from the network neigbourhood. Typed the password for the account created on XP machine in other to have access to shared resources without success.

Your suggestion "I reentered the Win98 user's nonexpiring password in the Win98 user's account on the XP computer" is not feasible in my own scenario since the all the clients using Windows 98 cannot be coming around to log on to XP machine first and then go back to their desk to Log remotely. Could you get accross to me to resolve this issue?
Thanks

ade May 19, 2004


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